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It was the single best piece of fiction I have ever experienced, no exaggeration. The story, the music, the characters, OH GOD THE FUCKING CHARACTERS!!!! I can't even put my thoughts into words, it's just so good on so many levels and no explanation could ever do it justice. [This Fucking Song] will always make me bawl my eyes out every time I listen to it because of the impact the song, and the experience has had on me. I'm not exaggerating in the slightest when I say that this visual novel permanently changed my view of the world, and I love every second of it. I love the cute harem hijinks of Extra, the great balance of mecha action and slice-of-life fun in Unlimited, the unrelenting barrage of emotions that is Alternative, hell, I even love the lacrosse arc! (And nobody will understand that in-joke!) Muv-Luv is just so, so good and I'm glad I finally put the 70 odd hours into going through it all in one sitting. Please, I urge you all to play it. Go out and find a copy; either buy a copy of the original version and download the fan translation, or get the all-ages version on Steam, but PLEASE play it! There's gonna be a lot of ups and downs throughout and you'll wanna quit in a few different places (for different reasons) and you'll probably develop some minor PTSD, but you will NOT regret it at all!

                                                                                                   "Valkyries! What is our motto?!"

                                                                                     Achieve your mission with all your might!

                                                                                        Despair not until your final breath!

                                                                                                Make your death count!
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dA dun goofed

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So remember Eclipse? dA's staff is starting to force it on us. If you want more info, read this journal entry. If you want to know my feelings on the subject, find my comment on that journal entry.

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Journal got deleted twice trying to edit it. Fuck introductions, argonian account. Taken from the wiki.

In a minor but respectable plaza in the Imperial City sat, or perhaps lounged, Lord Vanech's Building Commission. It was an unimaginative, austere building not noted so much for its aesthetic or architectural design as for its prodigious length. If any critics wondered why such an unornamented, extended erection held such fascination for Lord Vanech, they kept it to themselves.

In the 398th year of the 3rd Era, Decumus Scotti was a senior clerk at the Commission.

It had been a few months since the shy, middle-aged man had brought Lord Vanech the most lucrative of all contracts, granting the Commission the exclusive right to rebuild the roads of Valenwood which had been destroyed in the Five Year War. For this, he had become the darling of the managers and the clerks, spending his days recounting his adventures, more or less faithfully... although he did omit the ending of the tale, since many of them had partaken in the celebratory Unthrappa roast provided by the Silenstri. Informing one's listeners that they've gorged on human flesh improves very few stories of any good taste.

Scotti was neither particularly ambitious nor hard-working, so he did not mind that Lord Vanech had not given him anything to actually do.

Whenever the squat little gnomish man would happen upon Decumus Scotti in the offices, Lord Vanech would always say, "You're a credit to the Commission. Keep up the good work."

In the beginning, Scotti had worried that he was supposed to be doing something, but as the months went on, he merely replied, "Thank you. I will."

There was, on the other hand, the future to consider. He was not a young man, and though he was receiving a respectable salary for someone not doing actual work, Scotti considered that soon he might have to retire and not get paid for not doing work. It would be nice, he decided, if Lord Vanech, out of gratitude for the millions of gold the Valenwood contract was generating, might deign to make Scotti a partner. Or at least give him a small percentage of the bounty.

Decumus Scotti was no good at asking for things like that, which was one of the reasons why, previous to his signal successes in Valenwood as a senior clerk for Lord Atrius, he was a lousy agent. He had just about made up his mind to say something to Lord Vanech, when his lordship unexpectedly pushed things along.

"You're a credit to the Commission," the waddling little thing said, and then paused. "Do you have a moment free on your schedule?"

Scotti nodded eagerly, and followed his lordship to his hideously decorated and very enviable hectare of office space.

"Zenithar blesses us for your presence at the Commission," the little fellow squeaked grandly. "I don't know whether you know this, but we were having a bad time before you came along. We had impressive projects, for certain, but they were not successful. In Black Marsh, for example, for years we've been trying to improve the roads and other routes of travel for commerce. I put my best man, Flesus Tijjo, on it, but every year, despite staggering investments of time and money, the trade along those routes only gets slower and slower. Now, we have your very clean, very, very profitable Valenwood contract to boost the Commission's profits. I think it's time you were rewarded."

Scotti grinned a grin of great modesty and subtle avarice.

"I want you to take over the Black Marsh account from Flesus Tijjo."

Scotti shook as if awaking from a pleasant dream to hideous reality, "My Lord, I - I couldn't -"

"Nonsense," chirped Lord Vanech. "Don't worry about Tijjo. He will be happy to retire on the money I give him, particularly as soul-wrenchingly difficult as this Black Marsh business has been. Just your sort of a challenge, my dear Decumus."

Scotti couldn't utter a sound, though his mouth feebly formed the word "No" as Lord Vanech brought out the box of documentation on Black Marsh.

"You're a fast reader," Lord Vanech guessed. "You can read it all en route."

"En route to ..."

"Black Marsh, of course," the tiny fellow giggled. "You are a funny chap. Where else would you go to learn about the work that's being done, and how to improve it?"

The next morning, the stack of documentation hardly touched, Decumus Scotti began the journey south-east to Black Marsh. Lord Vanech had hired an able-bodied guard, a rather taciturn Redguard named Mailic, to protect his best agent. They rode south along the Niben, and then south-east along the Silverfish, continuing on into the wilds of Cyrodiil, where the river tributaries had no names and the very vegetation seemed to come from another world than the nice, civilized gardens of the northern Imperial Province.



Scotti's horse was tied to Mailic's, so the clerk was able to read. It made it difficult to pay attention to the path they were taking, but Scotti knew he needed at least a cursory familiarity with the Commission's business dealings in Black Marsh.

It was a huge box of paperwork going back forty years, when the Commission had first been given several million in gold by a wealthy trader, Lord Xellicles Pinos-Revina, to improve the condition of the road from Gideon to Cyrodiil. At that time, it took three weeks, a preposterously long time, for the rice and root he was importing to arrive, half-rotten, in the Imperial Province. Pinos-Revina was long dead, but many other investors over the decades, including Pelagius Septim V himself, had hired the Commission to build roads, drain swamps, construct bridges, devise anti-smuggling systems, hire mercenaries, and, in short, do everything that the greatest Empire in history knew would work to aid trade with Black Marsh. According to the latest figures, the result of this was that it took two and a half months for goods, now thoroughly rotten, to arrive.

Scotti found that when he looked up after concentrating on what he was reading, the landscape had always changed. Always dramatically. Always for the worse.

"This is Blackwood, sir," said Mailic to Scotti's unspoken question. It was dark and woodsy, so Decumus Scotti thought that a very appropriate name.

The question he longed to ask, which in due course he did ask, was, "What's that terrible smell?"

"Slough Point, sir," Mailic replied as they turned the next bend, where the umbrageous tunnel of tangled tree and vine opened to a clearing. There squatted a cluster of formal buildings in the dreary Imperial design favored by Lord Vanech's Commission and every Emperor since Tiber, together with a stench so eye-blindingly, stomach-wrenchingly awful that Scotti wondered, suddenly, if it were deadly poisonous. The swarms of blood-colored, sand-grain-sized insects obscuring the air did not improve the view.

Scotti and Mailic batted at the buzzing clouds as they rode their horses towards the largest of the buildings, which on approach revealed itself to be perched at the edge of a thick, black river. From its size and serious aspect, Scotti guessed it to be the census and excise office for the wide, white bridge that stretched across the burbling dark water to the reeds on the other side. It was a very nice, bright, sturdy-looking bridge, built, Scotti knew, by his Commission.

A poxy, irritable official opened the door quickly on Scotti's first knock. "Come in, come in, quickly! Don't let the fleshflies in!"

"Fleshflies?" Decumus Scotti trembled. "You mean, they eat human flesh?"

"If you're fool enough to stand around and let them," the soldier said, rolling his eyes. He had half an ear, and Scotti, looking around at the other soldiers in the fort noted that they all were well-chewed. One of them had no nose at all to speak of. "Now, what's your business?"

Scotti told them, and added that if they stood outside the fortress instead of inside, they might catch more smugglers.

"You better be more concerned with getting across that bridge," the soldier sneered. "Tide's coming up, and if you don't get a move on, you won't get to Black Marsh for four days."

That was absurd. A bridge swamped by a rising tide on a river? Only the look in the soldier's eyes told Scotti he wasn't joking.

Upon stepping out of the fort, he saw that the horses, evidently tired of being tortured by the fleshflies, had ripped free of their restraints and were bounding off into the woods. The oily water of the river was already lapping on the planks, oozing between the crevices. Scotti reflected that perhaps he would be more than willing to endure a wait of four days before going to Black Marsh, but Mailic was already running across.

Scotti followed him, wheezing. He was not in excellent shape, and never had been. The box of Commission materials was heavy. Halfway across, he paused to catch his breath, and then discovered he could not move. His feet were stuck.

The black mud that ran through the river was a thick gluey paste, and having washed over the plank Scotti was on, it held his feet fast. Panic seized him. Scotti looked up from his trap and saw Mailic leaping from plank to plank ahead of him, closing fast on the reeds on the other side.

"Help!" Scotti cried. "I'm stuck!"

Mailic did not even turn around, but kept jumping. "I know, sir. You need to lose weight."

Decumus Scotti knew he was a few pounds over, and had meant to start eating less and exercising more, but embarking on a diet hardly seemed to promise timely aid in his current predicament. No diet on Nirn would have helped him just then. However, on reflection, Scotti realized that the Redguard intended that he drop the box of documents, for Mailic was no longer carrying any of the essential supplies he had had with him previously.

With a sigh, Scotti threw the box of Commission notes into the glop, and felt the plank under him rise a quarter of an inch, just enough to free him from the mud's clutches. With an agility born of extreme fear, Scotti began leaping after Mailic, dropping onto every third plank, and springing up before the river gripped him.

In forty-six leaps, Decumus Scotti crashed through the reeds onto the solid ground behind Mailic, and found himself in Black Marsh. He could hear behind him a slurping sound as the bridge, and his container of important and official records of Commission affairs, was consumed by the rising flood of dark filth, never to be seen again.

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I know I've bagged on this a lot, but I need to address this issue again. When I started watching RWBY, I saw a lot of promise and potential. The writing was meh and the voice acting wasn't the best, but it had a lot of passion and heart put into it. The fight scenes were great, the characters were fun, the story/world building, while in the background, was neat for what it was. It was truly unique and I loved every second of it. Then Monty died. Volume 3 was still good. It kept everything that made RWBY great to begin with. But then Volume 4 happened, and the show went from a character-driven action show to a plot-driven macguffin hunt. And it wasn't even a GOOD plot-driven macguffin hunt! The characters lost most of their original personality, the fight scenes lost all rhythm and "wow" factor, some characters LOST development, crucial plot points were just brushed over, everything became "tell don't show", there were WAAAAAY more plot holes than any other season, Volume 5 continued this trend but made things even worse, the list of problems with modern RWBY goes on. It feels like CRWBY threw out Monty's original ideas and opted to go for something completely different from what he envisioned. But instead of making a 10 page long rant about it, I'll just quote the closing statement of Shane Newville's open letter. He expresses his problems and summarizes mine better than I ever could.

"My goal with this letter is not to point fingers. It's not to slander, to lash out. This is not something I wrote in a hurry while stewing in my emotions over it all. This is something that took much thought and consideration. I did my best not to name names or point fingers with blame. My goal is not to cause trouble or to bring ruin to the company or any person.

Some people told me to stay silent and not to say anything at all. To just let it work itself out. Be professional. Etc, etc, etc... I also know that Rooster Teeth is a business and they are just doing what businesses do. They make money. They do what they have to in order to make more sales. There is nothing wrong with that.

But I have a major problem with it if it is going to be done at the expense of the people I care about. This particular situation... It is dishonoring Monty and treating his wife as unimportant garbage to be kept at a far distance and forgotten. And on top of it all, after everything above, they claim that it is such an honor to be able to continue Monty's legacy.

Not an Honor

They work continuously to convince the contract animators and staff, who are unaware of the truth, of these things in order to keep them pumped and motivated. They say "What an honor". No, this is not an honor. This is a company IP you are working on. It is no longer Monty's RWBY, it's something different, and people could already see that without a single word from me. It is what it is. And it has turned into something I don't want anything to do with.

It's sad how little time it took for the changes to take place, but it happened and that's that. While it might make more sense to some why Rooster Teeth off'ed me, I feel strongly that it went that way on purpose. We have to keep moving forward.

I just want the truth to be out there. With everything that has happened, I know that all you've seen are the results with some pretty paper slapped on top... to try and cover up the truth. Sorry, but I've been sharpening my scissors and I have finally gained the strength to use them.

The best analogy I've discussed with anyone for this whole thing is this: Monty carried the torch. When he passed away I picked up the torch, and Sheena was there to carry it with me. We were ready. Some people had major problems with that, but they also did not want any part of Monty's torch. So they created a new torch altogether and did everything they could to make people believe it was Monty's torch. It was created to look like his, but they made it with their own hands and are sickeningly proud of it for that reason.

I'm still carrying Monty's torch. Sheena is still carrying it. Inspired fans carry it. Anyone who was close to the man and who cares enough to honor Monty carries it. We carry Monty's torch, and I have no intention of letting that fire die out.

This is what it means to keep moving forward."

Rest in Peace, Monty. Rooster Teeth may have forgotten you but we never will.
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One of the reasons why Death Battle stands out from other crossover media like One Minute Melee, Batinthesun, Mugen, 'official' crossovers and downright stupid fanfiction is for two things; research and accuracy. That said, no one's perfect and mistakes do happen. While it doesn't dominate the show itself, it sure does dominate the flamewars :/

Much of Death Battle is opinion based since, well, this is fiction. I also want to mention that some of these statements I might have already mentioned before. Feel free to visit my past blogs if you want to see my views on the matter. I'm also focusing only on the mistakes themselves, not the episode as a whole. Finally, I don't despise or oppose ALL of these mistakes and some of these things are more complaints as well as scientific inaccuracy, I'm just analyzing why some could see them as wrong, unfair or unpopular by the fans.

I also want to mention that these are not just things I hate, but things I think that DB did wrong due to their directing, science, research or logic. Most of what I hate about Death Battle that aren’t ‘scientific’ inaccuracies are duels that I thought were boring or a waste of time, or the combatants themselves. I think Justin/Rebecca and Beast/Goliath was a waste of time since there’s so many more popular ideas for duels like the 50 Hulk ideas out there (which I made a blog about btw: www.screwattack.com/news/hulk-… ). And there are some combatants I think are just plain stupid; Hawkeye is a ripoff (though Arrow is also a Robinhood ripoff so Hawkeye is a ripoff of a ripoff), Ivy and Wonder Woman look like and probably are sluts, and Captain America is shameless American propaganda. But with that said I know these characters and episodes still have their fans and so making a blog where I piss on people for liking something I don’t, just isn’t respectable to do... even though I literally just did it. This is why I avoid opinion blogs; they are too relevant to me and not my audience.

 

With that said, here's my list of Death Battle’s biggest mistakes (ascending from minor mistakes to major flaws).

 

 

 

#10- Tai attacking Red

 

For the record, I love this scene: CALL OFF YOUR DRAGON!  >:<

While it could be considered cheating, it does make sense for this scene to still occur; Tai has attacked trainers before and is reckless enough to attack kaiju Digimon like Shellmon: so ofcourse he would do this. Digimon fighting is life or death to save the world, it has no rules.

With that said, alot of people think it's unfair for Red to be basically curbstomped like a bitch. If Tai was bashing him with a rock or something it would make more sense. I'm not arguing over the size or age difference (since Ash is 10) but I do think the scene should have been a bit more even. However I understand that the scene existed purely to show that Charizard would be vulnerable without his strategic advantage, maybe not standing around like a defenseless idiot but also not setting up the outflanking maneuvers seen in the fight.

And as for Wargreymon jumping onto Charizard X: keep in mind that Charizard was basically wailing on him for about 30 seconds and that Charizard could use Fire Blast 6 times. Not to mention that Batman was allowed to ambush. Most of these flaws are debatable, so I don’t consider them all mistakes. But I am aware of why these arguments exist.

 

 

#9- Superman is boring

 

Lets be real here; Goku vs Superman 2 was made both to quiet the DBZtards and also try to appeal to them. I've seen the sane DBZ fans hate the episode, but also accept their loss due to the direct information being shown, but Death Battle knew that the insane DBZtards, who are probably the primary audience to such a rematch, would not be happy. So they spent so much time saying how good of a character Goku is because of his flaws that they implied that Superman is boring or a bad character for being flawless.

Many people agree that aesthetics of a DBZ match are more flashy and entertaining than Superman just punching a bankrobber; I believe that since anime is famous for higher animation styles and budgeting than typical American animation it is easy to conclude that anime fights might be more ‘epic’ and appealing to watch. The problem with this is the idea that because something is not the best, it should be discarded entirely. Spiderman is technically less intelligent than Batman, but that doesn’t make Spiderman retarded: he’s also quite a genius. Playstation All-Stars is considered a Smash Bros ripoff and I do prefer the latter; but I still enjoy both games.

Another issue with the entertainment value of Superman is the mentality of his character. The universe of DBZ exists purely for action, power and stuff blowing up. The story of Superman is to have awesome feats and power but also using it responsibly. For Superman to do stuff like destroying planets is against his own character. This is why Man of Steel has been so hated by DC fans: by trying to be as explosive or 'epic' as a Michael Bay or DBZ fightscene, the character of Superman is ignored or hidden under the chaos of the action. The opposite is also true; Goku doesn't exactly live to be a hero, he lives to be a combatant. This is why Goku at first hated SSJG: while it gives him the power to defend the world from Beerus, he knows it's not his real power and he's ashamed of being this desperate. This isn’t my opinion: Goku himself said this. Goku’s character is designed for epic combat and getting stronger, Superman is much more passive and limiting his powers.

Superman isn't boring, he just has a different mentality for his appeal. Whether a show or franchise is boring or not is a matter of tastes and opinion. As Superman vs The Elites showed; Superman knows that he isn't popular since he’s such a ‘boyscout’, but he still stands for his way of heroism because popularity isn't relevant to him. Saving the day and making the world better is.

DBZ is designed to be addictive; the endless growth of 'powerlevels' means there's always a new achievement to be unlocked, or new challenge to be met. Same mentality as Steam or Xbox achievements. It ignores responsibility, since the Dragonballs can fix anything, and focus on reckless combat and surpassing a clearly defined goal: which is also why Kratos and Doomguy has their fame despite their story being ‘buff guy murders everything’. DBZ is about entertainment to begin with, Superman is about analyzing a superego: about having a figure that inspires others not just because of his perfection but how he manages it.

Or you could be a sellout and have Superman advertise Ihop and Sears, make Batman look more popular or make crappy videogames. :p DC being a sellout and having a clusterfuck of a plot, absurd crossovers, buffs and nerfs (PLEASE stop making Aquaman ‘badass’, it doesn’t work) and too many multiverses to count makes it very hard for comics to be taken seriously as a whole; and unfortunately this has made the good stories become overshadowed as a result.

I consider this a mistake because Superman is the only character Death Battle has openly denounced to such a degree. Mikey, Satan and Dan don’t count because they are joke characters: they are supposed to be made fun of: and bashing Justin is a meme of itself.

I do understand however that the hosts were walking a fine line of appealing to the DBZ community despite having Goku getting so curbstomped. It’s near impossible to say ‘this guy is a loser but we love him anyways’ because no matter how you say that: someone’s going to be insulted. But to make the other guy look bad because of his victory feels even more insulting to me. However I do applaud Death Battle for not bending over to DBZ simply because Goku got new transformations. I knew walking into this fight that no matter how powerful any character can get; Superman is indestructible: and indestructible is indestructible, no matter how many multiverses Goku can destroy.

 

 

#8- Toph'sSandbending

 

I'm not saying this episode was wrong, I'm saying that this conclusion is debatable at best. Toph'scontrol over sand, especially changing sand into other earthly elements, was the primary reason why she won this match. Conceptually this does make sense, and Toph had other abilities (like her senses and defenses) that also assisted her win.

With that said, there's just so little evidence that it's impossible to conclude if this is right or wrong. Saying Gaara can prevent his sand being influenced due to his superior power or ghost-mother is just as plausible as saying Toph's superior skill with MULTIPLE elements made her influence even Chakra sand. Not to mention Toph's Sandbending traits have never been this detailed in her canon. It’s unclear if Chi and Chakra are the same thing or if one is superior to the other. Any conclusion around this ability and how it could be used against Gaara is pure assumption.

Battles concluded by assumptions and unproven theories should be avoided, simply because it’s not definitive. Shockingly this is one of those times when the tards do have a point, but good god they are still ranting about Gaara’s defeat to this day with such utter bloodshed. Get a girlfriend; and not Toph because she’s underage (or overage in Korra).

 

 

#7- The Punchingbags (Spiderman, Deadpool and Astroboy)

 

When a character spends a majority of the fight tanking damage while not having the reputation of being a tank (unlike LexWarsuit, Godzilla or Wolverine) then you get this weird scenario when DB has these seemingly fleshy characters act more likepunchingbags for most of the match. And I think this makes many people think that the hosts miscalculated the other character's defenses or something like that.

I know what DB is doing; they're giving the benefit of the doubt; showing that no move or combo could kill the 'punchbag' within a reasonable scenario. With that said, it makes the animation imply that the character has no skill or agility; when the opposite is true.

Spiderman especially wasn't really shown his durability feats in depth, and so naturally people think that the guy in bodyarmor had the durability advantage. If they pointed out how Spidey can survive being hit by trains or Rhinos or the guy named Rhino or Juggernaut or whatever, I think people would have gotten the picture better.

I think the Deadpool episode is the example of doing this idea right; Deadpool's healing factor was clearly shown, while Deathstroke's pain and crippling injuries were clearly depicted. Unfortunately most sprite-duels normally don't show this implication; with the exception of the Pokemon Royal.

This is more of a directing, depiction and animation mistake than anything else btw, I fully support these three episodes otherwise.

 

 

#6- Rushed Battles

 

Sometimes when DB is cutting corners, it shows.

Most noticeably Batman vs Captain America was designed to be a quick to make episode so they can show the episode if technical difficulties affected another episode (which was the case, for Godzilla if I recall: their computer broke). The first half of the fight clearly showed this corner-cutting; where Batman was completely cornered and outmatched by Cap. This scene made very little sense since DB confirmed that Batman is at least on par with or better than Captain America as a combatant. To not land a blow, and then resort to an ambush, looks weak. I support the conclusion, but the combat itself seemed too one-sided and for no real reason to be. You could argue that it’s because Cap is superhuman; but so was Spiderman, and to a more massive magnitude. Killer Croc and Bane are way more powerful and superhuman than Cap.

This ‘corner-cutting curbstomp’ is seen again in Wily vs Eggman. Metal Sonic dominated the fight for being so advanced in his design and power: and yet E-101 Mark II for some reason gets curbstomed by Magnetman? HOW? If you fight E-101 MkII in his game Sonic Adventure you know he can deflect, dodge or teleport away from any projectile (ignoring his weakness, the dash).

I get what DB was doing with this fight; saying that Eggman's bosses are weaker than Wily's bosses overall. That said, it is a glaring mistake.

 

 

#5- Pressurepoint Combat & Neck Breaking

 

Both Batman and Superman basically 1-hit ko'd their enemy simply because of... pressure-point combat? I don't know why this trait alone is so relevant to victory, considering that there are other martial arts involving things like strangling, joint-breaking or internal bleeding. For some reason, DB consider this specific martial-art as a gamechanger, and I don't know why.

Another technique is snapping someone's neck, again another reason why Batman could have been declared 'cheating' according to the Marvel fans: especially when done by an otherwise nonlethal weapon like a grapplegun. Luckily Batman also ripped Cap in half for good measure. In my mind, a necksnap also isn't as satisfying as the other fatalities.

 

 

#4- Scorpion and Immortal Characters

 

It is very easy to overestimate characters like Buu or Wolverine due to how OP their defensive traits are. Wolverine's defeat was due to a very obscure fact regarding a weakness Wolverine rarely actually faced, which could be seen as a copout. Buu being sent into the sun also felt like a copout, but keep in mind that Kirby could do this with his other abilities (cook, throw, maybe fighter) and had other ways to maybe kill Buu (starrod kills evil). And as they pointed out, Buu can and has died from complete incineration.

But the aforementioned characters and their deaths do make sense in theory; the biggest issue with this is Scorpion. His victory was implied to be obtained ONLY because of his immortality. True having hellpowers within hell and using lethal weapons helped, but the fact still remains: if a character is immortal and the enemy has NO weapons that can kill him, why bother? You know who's going to win. It's the "Superman walking through the Kamehameha" skit; you know Superman is indestructible so why bother giving him mortal opponents? You know Wolverine is immortal and indestructible, why suggest putting him against Baraka or Vega? Also as many have pointed out; Scorpion has occasionally been depicted as mortal. Infact doesn’t the fact that Scorpion can still be dismembered by fatalities mean he can die from those? Or at the very least be diced up and blended to a point where his body is no longer functional? Please let me know in the comments below; I don’t know enough about Scorpion to judge this entirely, but I still see the holes in the logic.

 

 

#3- Ignoring Shiek

 

Officially DB considered Shiek to be a costume instead of a transformation. They even stated that Shiek's abilities would exist within Zelda herself. That said; the problem is that this is never addressed, AT ALL. Not in the analysis, not in the conclusion, anything martial-art or ninjutsu related was not even implied in the episode. This is one of the few times a character is significantly nerfed before the match even begins, and without any nerfing being done to the opponent. A clear agility advantage could be devastating, especially when Peach has been depicted as much slower than Mario or Luigi on multiple occasions and Smashbros (which is what they used to analyze the two anyways) depicts Shiek as much faster than Mario. I understand that Shiek had no sprites, but to throw her out entirely made no sense and was completely unfair.

One counter-argument is that Shiek’s fightingstyle in smash is not canon, using Shiek broadens the scope of the match or using Shiek is some kind of unfair advantage due to not being part of Zelda’s usual arsenal. Yeah… tell that to the fucking SOCCER move from the SPINOFF game.

 

 

#2- Vegeta Punches the Moon

 

Characters like Heman, Kirby and Superman do exist. Characters who can move entire moons or planets with their strength can be depicted.

The issue is that SSJ2 Vegeta has been confirmed to not be anywhere near this level of power; by Death Battle's own research. Goku and Vegeta are on par with each other in power: why not? They are both the same species. Makes sense. But as seen with the 40 tons baseform limit, and multiplying that by 100 (for the SSJ2 multipliers) and Vegeta can lift only 4000 tons (which is still impressive mind you, just nowhere near enough for this feat). This is NOT enough to send the moon out of orbit (unless it's Donkey Kong's moon, but that's not what was implied in the Vegeta episode). As DB pointed out; this theory is justified by official statements by DBZ itself: I’m not going to debate the validity of this since there’s no reason to completely falsify this theory: it’s too concrete. It needs to be off by several Quadrillion times to be inaccurate, which is quite absurd.

And while ki is destructive, the fact remains that this is strength and not ki; Roshi was impressed to see Kid Goku move a boulder and yet Roshi can destroy the moon with a Kamehameha: so you can’t say that Vegeta’s strength is this high because of his ki’s destructive potential.

Now I know this scene didn't do much to the match, but it remains one of the biggest contradictions within Death Battle.

 

 

 

Dishonorable Mentions;

 

Rainbow Dash's Win. Now that she can do a rain-NUKE, I think she could easily win even against a Transformer. But before that, the match was... weird in its conclusion.

 

Master Chief’sGrenade. I heard that you can't throw grenades through plasma shields. That said, he still could have just walked out of the shield to deliver the killing blow.

 

The Nitpicks of Superman Goku<Part 1>. DB went so out of their way addressing the minor arguments; muffin button mindreading, kryptonite (one of the rarest rocks on the planet and a weakness Goku knew nothing about), power pole's magic, SSJ transformation blocking out the sun: REALLY? We’re considering artistic aesthetics as a weapon? They addressed way too much detail, this really slowed down the match for me. But lord know this had to be done to prepare themselves for any counterargument the raging nerds would have.

 

Heman vs the Eye of death lasers BWAAAAAAA. This just came the fuck out of nowhere. Luckily it didn't really affect much and was somewhat epic.

 

Terminator Can't Count. The hyper-intelligent robot assassin doesn’t remember how much ammo his gun holds? And why or how does Robocop know how much ammo the plasmarifle had? This is more distracting than Robocop’s glitching mouth.

 

Luigi’s Two-for-One Deal. Luigi used two Final Smashes at once AND knew there was a time bomb on him. Seemed a bit unfair but again, didn't destroy the match. And yes, I am well aware that this match aired before Smash4. Tails need his own Final Smash, Tails for DLC plz?

 

Knuckles Punching the Cliff. Just seemed weird to me. I guess he really does think punching solves every problem. (spoilers, it doesn't).

 

Hawkeye’s Mini Nuke. If Hawkeye was aiming at Green Arrow with a bomb strong enough to destroy a BUILDING, and Arrow is on the same BUILDING as you, then you basically attempted to be a suicide bomber. Not to mention you could have aimed at the roof itself, if you’re THAT suicidal.

 

Insulting fatalities. There are times when things get a bit too brutal (Ash’s legs). There are times when the truth hurts (Superman in part 2). But what did you expect in a Death Battle, a happy ending? No what I’m talking about is Pikachu being thrown into a blender or a ‘Kirby sun’ staring at you for 5 seconds just to taunt “HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIII!!!” Right or wrong, it still feels uncomfortable.

 

 

#1- THAT SHEEP

By far, a copout that a majority of DB fans agree is utter crap. Yes Peach’s episode gets two mentions here. There are plenty of nitpicks with any episode; I could talk about the intelligence gab between the braindead damsel and the triforce of wisdom, or question if the Light Arrows should have killed Peach. However out of anything within DB’s history, this is by far an issue that will never go away for me. Here's the scenario;

 

*Peach in her RPG game has a move called ‘Sleepy Time’ which can put enemies to sleep by dropping a sheep on them. This ability is obscure and rarely shown elsewhere but it does exist.

*Zelda uses Nayru's Love, a shield that reflects projectiles to the EXACT OPPOSITE direction of where it came from. But instead of flying directly back towards Peach, the sheep is sent perpendicularly upwards into the air.

*It then stays in the air for about half a minute, give or take: despite neither Peach nor Zelda showing either of their moves demonstrating this much ‘throwing power’. Also instead of just flying over the horizon or being blown away by wind, it remains hovering above the battlefield.

*The sheep then locks onto Zelda and hits her with Hawkeye-like homing-missile precision.This isn't luck, for it to be luck is just absurd because this is a 1 in a million chance. Keep in mind, Zelda is not a large stationary target. And even if you do say it's luck, Peach could have been hit as well.

*And ofcourse the SOCCER-move is used as a fatality, despite never being used for combat before and being in a SPORTS SPINOFF game.

 

Do I REALLY need to explain why this got #1? Hercule did something similar to this with a capsule, but he was dominating his duel anyways and at the very least was designed to be a joke. This mistake is so huge because it DETERMINED the outcome of a match: and it did so using NO logic.

 

 

 

Feel free to mention what you think are some big mistakes within DB, but keep it simple and don't make it into a blind rant. And again, check out my other blogs if you wish.

--Original blog by Pikazilla on the Rooster Teeth forum

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